Erich Widdeman & Rainer Weber
Der Spiegel, Hamburg, Germany
I don’t know what Sheela has told you about the way we like these discussions to go. We do a complete write-up, edit it, and then send the text to you or to your confidants to be reedited. These interviews are not meant to be question and answer, but rather a controversial discussion. For you, it is an opportunity to get rid of prejudices against you and your religion.
There will be a couple of questions which have been asked many times before, for which I apologize.
No problem. You just ask whatsoever you want, and in whatever way you want. And a question may have been asked thousands of times, but I have not given the same answer again and again and again. My answer has been different a thousand times. So you need not be worried; this is my business. You just ask.
That might be one of the reasons you’re being judged by the public so controversially, because your answers are not always the same on the same subjects.
But I am controversial! It is not a judgment of the public, it is the reality.
You say that it is not your answer that changes, it is the reality that changes?
Yes. It is reality that changes, and I change with reality. I am certainly controversial. There is nothing wrong about the public thinking me controversial.
Is there anything you are really angry about? Any controversial issue?
You’re beyond all this controversy?
I just enjoy it.